[SLE] SuSe 9.3 pro iso downloads

[babu walad]

Hello,

I was considering downloading the ISO image for 9.3
but I noticed that the 5 CD images are for the pro
edition while the DVD image said "eval" version. Is
this
a typo or is SuSE only offering the pro in CD form?

Thanks,

Babu


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Post by babu walad
Hello,
I was considering downloading the ISO image for 9.3
but I noticed that the 5 CD images are for the pro
edition while the DVD image said "eval" version. Is
this
a typo or is SuSE only offering the pro in CD form?

If you had read README_eval.txt in the iso directory, your question
would have been answered:

Choose the version you want
===========================

* SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (32-bit version) is available
on 5 CD ISO images or on a single DVD ISO image.
* SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (64-bit version) is available
on 1 DVD ISO image only.

...

What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition
====================================================

* the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit version of
SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a streamlined 32bit
version of the software.
* the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE
LINUX Professional 9.3. It including approximately 450
additional packages not available on the 32-bit version
included on the downloadable DVD image. These additional
packages are mostly language packages for applications and
development versions of various software libraries.
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[babu walad]

Hi Scott,

In fact I did read the README and it was confusing.
Your explanation is confusing. If I understand the
README, there should be 5 CDs for 9.3 pro,
one DVD for 9.3 pro, and one DVD for 9.3 live eval.
There should be 2 DVD iso images. I see only one.
I guess I still don't understand the difference
because the label on the C dvs DVD is pro vs. eval.

Thanks anyway.

Babu

Post by Scott Jones

Post by babu walad
Hello,
I was considering downloading the ISO image for

9.3

Post by babu walad
but I noticed that the 5 CD images are for the pro
edition while the DVD image said "eval" version.

Is

Post by babu walad
this
a typo or is SuSE only offering the pro in CD

form?
If you had read README_eval.txt in the iso
directory, your question
Choose the version you want
===========================
* SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (32-bit version) is
available
on 5 CD ISO images or on a single DVD ISO image.
* SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (64-bit version) is
available
on 1 DVD ISO image only.
...
What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition
====================================================
* the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit
version of
SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a
streamlined 32bit
version of the software.
* the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version
of SUSE
LINUX Professional 9.3. It including
approximately 450
additional packages not available on the 32-bit
version
included on the downloadable DVD image. These
additional
packages are mostly language packages for
applications and
development versions of various software
libraries.
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Post by babu walad
Hi Scott,
In fact I did read the README and it was confusing.
Your explanation is confusing. If I understand the
README, there should be 5 CDs for 9.3 pro,
one DVD for 9.3 pro, and one DVD for 9.3 live eval.
There should be 2 DVD iso images. I see only one.
I guess I still don't understand the difference
because the label on the C dvs DVD is pro vs. eval.

The download DVD, like the boxed set DVD contains both 32 & 64 bit
versions. However, it contains fewer 32 bit packages than the boxed set
DVD. This may be due to fitting it on a single layer DVD, whereas the
boxed DVD is dual layer. Regardless of the install source, missing
packages can be installed from the mirrors. You can configure Yast to
look to one of those mirrors, instead of the CD/DVD, when installing new
packages.

[Ken Schneider]

Post by James Knott

Post by babu walad
Hi Scott,
In fact I did read the README and it was confusing.
Your explanation is confusing. If I understand the
README, there should be 5 CDs for 9.3 pro,
one DVD for 9.3 pro, and one DVD for 9.3 live eval.
There should be 2 DVD iso images. I see only one.
I guess I still don't understand the difference
because the label on the C dvs DVD is pro vs. eval.

The download DVD, like the boxed set DVD contains both 32 & 64 bit
versions. However, it contains fewer 32 bit packages than the boxed set
DVD. This may be due to fitting it on a single layer DVD, whereas the
boxed DVD is dual layer. Regardless of the install source, missing
packages can be installed from the mirrors. You can configure Yast to
look to one of those mirrors, instead of the CD/DVD, when installing new
packages.

There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

[Arun Khan]

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.
From what I have seen about the DVD on Novell's site, it is a parred

down version of the boxed 32/64 bit editions. Here are the md5sum and
the DVD size.

SUSE-LINUX-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 04d2ebe4e0b8b00bc83cdc180a79e667 4.5 GB

A friend has a similar DVD for 9.2. It can install 32 or 64 bit
version. Such a CD existed for up to SuSE 6.x, from 7.x they
discontinued it. Looks like Novell has resurrected the eval. version
from 9.x onwards.

http://downloademea.novell.com/Download?buildid=w0eJkmg6Xkw~

Excerpt from above link:

SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional, Installable DVD Evaluation

This free offering will enable Linux users to trial the latest open
source desktop, server and application functionality that has become the
hallmark of the SUSE LINUX consumer distribution.

key features
* a comprehensive selection of applications to facilitate a wide
variety of computing tasks (office suite, email, Internet,
picture processing, multimedia and more) plus a subset of
packages for advanced users, including key networking and
development packages such as SAMBA, Apache Web server, KDevelop,
Mono and more.

* 32bit and 64bit version

* over 1,000 software packages

[James Knott]

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Here's a couple of quotes.

"Choose the version you want
===========================

* SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (32-bit version) is available
on 5 CD ISO images or on a single DVD ISO image.
* SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 (64-bit version) is available
on 1 DVD ISO image only."

and

"What's the difference between the CD and DVD edition
====================================================

* the DVD edition contains the complete 64-bit version of
SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3 as well as a streamlined 32bit
version of the software.
* the CD edition contains a complete 32-bit version of SUSE
LINUX Professional 9.3. It including approximately 450
additional packages not available on the 32-bit version
included on the downloadable DVD image. These additional
packages are mostly language packages for applications and
development versions of various software libraries."

Also, the DVD ISO is 4.2 GB, which is far more than necessary for a
network install.

[Ken Schneider]

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

[Ken Schneider]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.

This is the contents of:

Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Name Last modified Size Description

________________________________________________________________________

[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 -
[ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M
[TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k
[TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M


As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at
SuSE forgot to add the file.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

[James Knott]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.

Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 -
[ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M
[TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k
[TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at
SuSE forgot to add the file.

In another note, I posted a link to a mirror that contains what I described.

[Ken Schneider]

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.

Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 -
[ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M
[TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k
[TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at
SuSE forgot to add the file.

In another note, I posted a link to a mirror that contains what I described.

Yes as you can see the "eval" iso is there, but the OP was looking for a
64 bit install DVD iso which IS missing.
Quoted from the "eval-DVD" text file

* When delivered on 5 CD ISOs, SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3
requires 5 separate downloads of 650MB each, 3.3GB in total)
* When delivered on a single DVD ISO, SUSE LINUX Professional
9.3 required one download of 4.5 GB

Where is the 4.5 GB file that is supposed to be used as a 64 bit
-install- DVD?
No where, it is missing. The text file even quotes estimated download
times for the iso's.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

[James Knott]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.

Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 -
[ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M
[TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k
[TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at
SuSE forgot to add the file.

In another note, I posted a link to a mirror that contains what I described.

Yes as you can see the "eval" iso is there, but the OP was looking for a
64 bit install DVD iso which IS missing.
Quoted from the "eval-DVD" text file
* When delivered on 5 CD ISOs, SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3
requires 5 separate downloads of 650MB each, 3.3GB in total)
* When delivered on a single DVD ISO, SUSE LINUX Professional
9.3 required one download of 4.5 GB
Where is the 4.5 GB file that is supposed to be used as a 64 bit
-install- DVD?
No where, it is missing. The text file even quotes estimated download
times for the iso's.

Others have also replied to your posts. One thing that's obvious, is
that you're apparently the only one who can't see that 4.2 GB ISO.

[Allen Wilkinson]

A while back I was downloading the EVAL DVD ISO. The size and date
changed twice on the ftp.suse.com site. It was different on different US
mirrors at the same time. Could it be the iso has been getting changed
by whomever uploads to the mirrors. The LIVE iso also was broken on 2 of
three downloads. I believe that someone was making mischief or fixing
bugs or something.

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Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.

Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 -
[ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M
[TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k
[TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at
SuSE forgot to add the file.

In another note, I posted a link to a mirror that contains what I described.

Yes as you can see the "eval" iso is there, but the OP was looking for a
64 bit install DVD iso which IS missing.
Quoted from the "eval-DVD" text file
* When delivered on 5 CD ISOs, SUSE LINUX Professional 9.3
requires 5 separate downloads of 650MB each, 3.3GB in total)
* When delivered on a single DVD ISO, SUSE LINUX Professional
9.3 required one download of 4.5 GB
Where is the 4.5 GB file that is supposed to be used as a 64 bit
-install- DVD?
No where, it is missing. The text file even quotes estimated download
times for the iso's.

Others have also replied to your posts. One thing that's obvious, is
that you're apparently the only one who can't see that 4.2 GB ISO.
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Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.

Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 -
[ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M
[TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k
[TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at
SuSE forgot to add the file.

In another note, I posted a link to a mirror that contains what I described.

*ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/ (New York, Buffalo)*

* DVD ISO image (32bit + 64bit, 4,3 GB)
<ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso>



* md5 sum <ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/MD5SUMS>

* CD ISO image 1 (32bit, 696 MB)
<ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso>



* md5 sums <ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/MD5SUMS>

* CD ISO image 2 (32bit, 676 MB)
<ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso>



* CD ISO image 3 (32bit, 697 MB)
<ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso>



* CD ISO image 4 (32bit, 669 MB)
<ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso>



* CD ISO image 5 (32bit, 681 MB)
<ftp://trane.caset.buffalo.edu/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso>
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[Scott Jones]

Post by Ken Schneider
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at
SuSE forgot to add the file.

Could be that whatever you are using to look at that is reporting the wrong
size.

Using Firefox 1.0.6:

Index of ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Up to higher level directory
Directory: 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 06/29/2005 02:06:00 PM
File: MD5SUMS 1 KB 07/19/2005 10:53:00 AM
File: README_eval.txt 6 KB 06/29/2005 12:02:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 4383158 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 712356 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 692028 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 713926 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 685280 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 697104 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM

Using ncftp:

ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/ftp.suse.com/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
ncftp ....com/suse/i386/9.3/iso > ls -lh
-rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 104 Jul 2 20:49 .gwdg-mirror
lrwxrwxrwx 1 emoenke ftp 16 Jun 30 12:02
9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso -> ../boot/boot.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 361 Jul 1 09:40 MD5SUMS
-rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 5.6k Jun 29 12:02 README_eval.txt
-rw------- 1 65534 ftp 4.2G Jul 1 09:27 SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 696M Jul 1 09:27 SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 676M Jun 27 12:10 SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 697M Jun 27 12:10 SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 669M Jun 27 12:10 SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 emoenke ftp 681M Jun 27 12:10 SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso

[Ken Schneider]

Post by Scott Jones

Post by Ken Schneider
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at
SuSE forgot to add the file.

Could be that whatever you are using to look at that is reporting the wrong
size.
Index of ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Up to higher level directory
Directory: 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 06/29/2005 02:06:00 PM
File: MD5SUMS 1 KB 07/19/2005 10:53:00 AM
File: README_eval.txt 6 KB 06/29/2005 12:02:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 4383158 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 712356 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 692028 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 713926 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 685280 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 697104 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM

I am using Firefox 1.0.4 and shows the file as 184M just as I stated in
an earlier post.
Perhaps there is a problem with the version of Firefox that shipped with
SuSE 9.3.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

[James Knott]

Post by Ken Schneider
I am using Firefox 1.0.4 and shows the file as 184M just as I stated in
an earlier post.
Perhaps there is a problem with the version of Firefox that shipped with
SuSE 9.3.

Both Mozilla & Konqueror in 9.3 show a 4.2 GB file.

[Jie Li]

DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB
you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.

Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 -
[ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M
[TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k
[TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at
SuSE forgot to add the file.
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[Ken Schneider]

Post by Jie Li
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB
you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!

I wasn't aware the Firefox was an FTP client.
And please do not top post. It tells me someone is to lazy to edit their
response and put their answer after the part they are responding to.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

[Ken Schneider]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Jie Li
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB
you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!

I wasn't aware the Firefox was an FTP client.
And please do not top post. It tells me someone is to lazy to edit their
response and put their answer after the part they are responding to.

Just tried something different. I usually use
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3
to look at the contents (notice http instead of ftp) because it is much
faster to browse around. When I used ftp:// instead of http:// the
correct sizes show. Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer
that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using
http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB
for konquerer when using ftp://
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

[Dan Wilson]

Post by Ken Schneider
Just tried something different. I usually use
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3
to look at the contents (notice http instead of ftp) because it is much
faster to browse around. When I used ftp:// instead of http:// the
correct sizes show. Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer
that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using
http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB
for konquerer when using ftp://

This is not an issue with the clients... it's a problem with the http
protocol (or perhaps Apache). It has issues with large files. I don't
recall the limit, but I'd assume anything larger that 1GB or so isn't
going to display the correct size.

-Dan

[david rankin]

----- Original Message -----

Post by Ken Schneider
Just tried something different. I usually use
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3
to look at the contents (notice http instead of ftp) because it is much
faster to browse around. When I used ftp:// instead of http:// the
correct sizes show. Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer
that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using
http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB
for konquerer when using ftp://

Ken,

We all have those days. And when it happens, I've always found crow
tastes a little better with salt...... Keep the faith. And, for the record,
I haven't seen the 64bit iso either...

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[Philipp Thomas]

Post by Ken Schneider
Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer
that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using
http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB
for konquerer when using ftp://

That's because apache doesn't support files larger than 2 GB.

Philipp

[Andreas Jaeger]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Jie Li
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB
you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!

I wasn't aware the Firefox was an FTP client.
And please do not top post. It tells me someone is to lazy to edit their
response and put their answer after the part they are responding to.

Just tried something different. I usually use
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3
to look at the contents (notice http instead of ftp) because it is much
faster to browse around. When I used ftp:// instead of http:// the
correct sizes show. Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer
that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using
http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB
for konquerer when using ftp://

No, a bug in apache - in cannot show files larger than 2 GB,

Andreas

[Ken Schneider]

Post by Andreas Jaeger

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Jie Li
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB
you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!

I wasn't aware the Firefox was an FTP client.
And please do not top post. It tells me someone is to lazy to edit their
response and put their answer after the part they are responding to.

Just tried something different. I usually use
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3
to look at the contents (notice http instead of ftp) because it is much
faster to browse around. When I used ftp:// instead of http:// the
correct sizes show. Perhaps this is a bug in mozilla/firefox/konquerer
that needs to be fixed. All three show the file as 184M when using
http:// to browse and shows 4383158 KB for mozilla/firefox and 4.2 GB
for konquerer when using ftp://

No, a bug in apache - in cannot show files larger than 2 GB,
Andreas

You would think that since filesystems have supported files larger than
2 GB for a long time that the folks at apache would have started to as
well. I'll see want I can stir up at apache.org.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

[Philipp Thomas]

Post by Ken Schneider
You would think that since filesystems have supported files larger than
2 GB for a long time that the folks at apache would have started to as
well.

Apache has optional support, but currently that would change the apache
API, making it incompatible with modules that were compiled against
standard apache.

AFAIR, 2.2 will have full support for LFS.

Philipp

[James Knott]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Jie Li
DVD ISO is not only 184MB, it's 4.5GB
you need to update your ftp client to recognise large files!

I wasn't aware the Firefox was an FTP client.
And please do not top post. It tells me someone is to lazy to edit their
response and put their answer after the part they are responding to.

Most browsers can access ftp sites.

[Greg Wallace]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.

Index of /pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Name Last modified Size Description
________________________________________________________________________
[DIR] Parent Directory 19-Jul-2005 14:19 -
[ ] 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 03-Jun-2005 15:12 57.0M
[TXT] MD5SUMS 19-Jul-2005 12:53 1k
[TXT] README_eval.txt 29-Jun-2005 14:02 6k
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 184M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 01-Jul-2005 11:27 696M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 676M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 697M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 669M
[ ] SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 27-Jun-2005 14:10 681M
As you can see there is NO install DVD for 64 bit. Perhaps someone at
SuSE forgot to add the file.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

Ken:

When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.

ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/

Greg Wallace

[Ken Schneider]

Post by Greg Wallace
When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
Greg Wallace

Yes but when you go here you see the iso as 184M.

http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/

There appears to be a problem in the way apache displays the size as any
browser that I use shows the same results.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

[Greg Wallace]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Greg Wallace
When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
Greg Wallace

Yes but when you go here you see the iso as 184M.
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
There appears to be a problem in the way apache displays the size as any
browser that I use shows the same results.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

Yeah, I saw those earlier posts. Sounds like maybe Apache is moving the
size number to a display work area that is too small and is therefore
truncating high-order bits?

Greg Wallace

[Ken Schneider]

Post by Greg Wallace

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Greg Wallace
When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
Greg Wallace

Yes but when you go here you see the iso as 184M.
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
There appears to be a problem in the way apache displays the size as any
browser that I use shows the same results.

Yeah, I saw those earlier posts. Sounds like maybe Apache is moving the
size number to a display work area that is too small and is therefore
truncating high-order bits?
Greg Wallace

The other strange thing though is if you go here:

http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.2/iso/

you see the DVD iso size shown correctly, I think.
Which is why I thought there was no DVD iso for 9.3.
Very strange indeed.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998

"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

[Greg Wallace]

Post by Greg Wallace

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Greg Wallace
When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
Greg Wallace

Yes but when you go here you see the iso as 184M.
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
There appears to be a problem in the way apache displays the size as any
browser that I use shows the same results.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

Yeah, I saw those earlier posts. Sounds like maybe Apache is moving the
size number to a display work area that is too small and is therefore
truncating high-order bits?
Greg Wallace

And maybe need to add

ELSE
IF SIZE > 1073741824 THEN
DISP_SIZE := size / 1073741824;
RPT_SIZE := DISP_SIZE || 'G';
END IF;
END IF;

Greg Wallace

[Greg Wallace]

Post by Greg Wallace

Post by Greg Wallace

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Greg Wallace
When I go here, I see a DVD ISO that is 3.99 GB in size.
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
Greg Wallace

Yes but when you go here you see the iso as 184M.
http://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso/
There appears to be a problem in the way apache displays the size as any
browser that I use shows the same results.
--
Ken Schneider
UNIX since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE since 1998
"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

Yeah, I saw those earlier posts. Sounds like maybe Apache is moving the
size number to a display work area that is too small and is therefore
truncating high-order bits?
Greg Wallace

And maybe need to add
ELSE
IF SIZE > 1073741824 THEN
DISP_SIZE := size / 1073741824;
RPT_SIZE := DISP_SIZE || 'G';
END IF;
END IF;
Greg Wallace

Of course, it is an Apache 1 server. I would hope Apache 2 would display
that correctly.

Greg W

[Andreas Jaeger]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and

Ken, there should be an ISO and there's on on ftp.suse.com

Post by Ken Schneider
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.

In that case your ftp client/browser is broken. With firefox from 9.3
I see:

Index of ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso
Up to higher level directory
Directory: 9.3-x86-64-Network-Installation.iso 06/29/2005 02:06:00 PM
File: MD5SUMS 1 KB 07/19/2005 10:53:00 AM
File: README_eval.txt 6 KB 06/29/2005 12:02:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso 4383158 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD1.iso 712356 KB 07/01/2005 09:27:00 AM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD2.iso 692028 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD3.iso 713926 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD4.iso 685280 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM
File: SUSE-9.3-Prof-i386-CD5.iso 697104 KB 06/27/2005 12:10:00 PM


Note that not every mirror might have the DVD iso,

Andreas

[James Knott]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by James Knott

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit iso is
for network install only.

Please read the README_eval.txt, in the ISO directory on the mirrors.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors. There
is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd set and
the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is there, although
it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD instead of a DVD.

Please take a look here:
ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/suse/i386/9.3/iso

Now tell me what the file "SUSE-9.3-Eval-DVD.iso" is for. While you're
at it, read the "README_eval.txt" file, which is immediately above the ISO.

Perhaps the mirror you're looking at is missing a few files.

[mike]

Post by Ken Schneider

Post by Ken Schneider
There is no install DVD available for download. The only 64 bit
iso is for network install only.

Did you even bother to actually check ftp.suse.com or the mirrors.
There is NO DVD iso available. The ONLY iso's available are the 5 cd
set and the 64 bit network install iso. Also the eval DVD iso is
there, although it is only 184M which will fit on a standard CD
instead of a DVD.

You might want to check the mirror you are using.. I found it at
ftp.gwdg.de.

Mike
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[Greg Wallace]

Post by babu walad
Hello,
I was considering downloading the ISO image for 9.3
but I noticed that the 5 CD images are for the pro
edition while the DVD image said "eval" version. Is
this
a typo or is SuSE only offering the pro in CD form?
Thanks,
Babu

The DVD in the boxed set has all of the packages. The downloadable DVD is
missing some. The boxed set DVD also has more packages than the CDs, which
have the same number of packages in the boxed set as in the downloadable
version.

Greg Wallace