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ianseeks
2014-10-19 18:31:57 UTC
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Anyone know why opensuse is 3 releases behind in Cups. I'm still on 1.5.4 and
there's been 1.6 and 1.7 releases and now 2.0 is in the wild.

I'm guessing that 1.6 and 1.7 were deemed to add no value.

regards

Ian
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Markus Koßmann
2014-10-19 18:41:31 UTC
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Hi
Anyone know why opensuse is 3 releases behind in Cups. I'm still on 1.5.4
and there's been 1.6 and 1.7 releases and now 2.0 is in the wild.
I'm guessing that 1.6 and 1.7 were deemed to add no value.
regards
Ian
You will find some explanation on <https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Printing>
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ianseeks
2014-10-19 18:53:46 UTC
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Post by ianseeks
Hi
Anyone know why opensuse is 3 releases behind in Cups. I'm still on 1.5.4
and there's been 1.6 and 1.7 releases and now 2.0 is in the wild.
I'm guessing that 1.6 and 1.7 were deemed to add no value.
regards
Ian
You will find some explanation on <https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Printing>
thanks
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Carlos E. R.
2014-10-19 19:41:35 UTC
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You will find some explanation on
<https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Printing>
thanks
In particular this: <https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735404>

The number of issues is huge...

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John Andersen
2014-10-19 21:39:41 UTC
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You will find some explanation on
<https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Printing>
thanks
<https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735404>
The number of issues is huge...
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On the other hand, what we are running isn't broke, so no rush to fix it.

If Apple is going to gut the thing, maybe we should wait and see.
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Carlos E. R.
2014-10-19 22:20:36 UTC
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<https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735404>
The number of issues is huge...
On the other hand, what we are running isn't broke, so no rush to fix it.
If Apple is going to gut the thing, maybe we should wait and see.
It will stop working sooner or later. So all distributions will have
to find an alternative or take themselves the support and development.

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John Andersen
2014-10-19 22:54:37 UTC
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On the other hand, what we are running isn't broke, so no rush to
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fix it.
If Apple is going to gut the thing, maybe we should wait and see.
It will stop working sooner or later. So all distributions will have to find an alternative or
take themselves the support and development.
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Well the sooner that starts the sooner it will be taken care of.

This problem has been known since 2012, when Apple told everybody they were
going to drop almost everything that isn't use in OSX and let the Linux world
fend for themselves.
http://www.unixmen.com/201202-apple-orphans-linux-cups-features-handicaps-open-source-printing/

Apple is at best a reluctant open source player, that can be dragged kicking and screaming
to opensource if the threat of lawyers is raised.

There is no reason code has to "break sooner of later". In my day job maintain entire systems
that were written when Jimmy Carter was in office (1977). It has been re-platformed three times
over the years. But original code still runs.


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ianseeks
2014-10-19 18:54:53 UTC
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Hi
Anyone know why opensuse is 3 releases behind in Cups. I'm still on 1.5.4
and there's been 1.6 and 1.7 releases and now 2.0 is in the wild.
I'm guessing that 1.6 and 1.7 were deemed to add no value.
regards
Ian
Basically Apple removed features in 1.6 that Linux relied upon and we
needed time to work around that. I've had no time to look at 2.0, but
there's more stuff removed, so it will be a while before it gets
widely adopted.
John.
thanks, i noticed in one of the comment on Cups.org, it mentions fixing some
USB quirks in Linux version
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